The Greeks and Christianity
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"Religion is the most malevolent of all mind viruses. We should
get rid of it as quick as we can." -- Author Arthur C. Clarke, Popular
Science, Aug. 2004
Christianity was (supposedly) introduced to the Greeks by Paul The Apostle when he visited Athens during one of his visits
to Greece and was allowed to preach in the Aeropagus, according to Acts 17:16-32 (). When the Epicurean and Stoic
philosophers heard of resurrection of the dead, their reaction was sneering and a
good dose of sarcasm (Acts 17:32).
In addition to Athens, Paul visited many different cities of Greece, such as
Corinth, Thessalonica and Berea, but Paul's doctrine did not quite find fertile ground
until Constantine (The "Great") () reverted to Christianity and made
the new doctrine the official religion of the Roman Empire ().
Of course, it would have probably been impossible for this emperor to do this,
unless the dogma had either been silently propagated behind everyone's back's for
200-300 years throughout the entire empire or some sort of force was used. The problem
was that Greece was now part of the Roman empire and it really had no say or
choice on the dogma's spread, because the descendants of The Ancients were now more of
a minority to the vast domain of the Roman Empire at around 300AD.
Although some major Christian apologists and church fathers were of Greek origin,
the dogma itself remained a completely foreign import to the Ancient Greek Spirit and
as such, I feel that it needs some careful justification in lieu of some famous modern
tradition, which, for better or worse, inherently ties the (whatever remaining) Greeks
with this religion.
Today, modern Greece is officially a "Christian" nation, so a certain assimilation
must have occurred during these early (and later) years with most historians thinking
that the assimilation that took place was that of Christianity assimilating the
In reality the assimilation that took place was the Greek language assimilating the
Christian dogma instead, as the language had reached its developmental peak and was now
(then) a viable tool for the dogma's further expansion. Witness the more
"authoritarian" Koine-Greek New Testament versions.
The linguistic assimilation happened naturally and in a benign way, but there was
another assimilation that happened unnaturally and by force. The
conversion of the local populace to Christianity through violent
is not so well known, but anyone with sufficient access to the first church council
synod writings and decrees, can examine the writings of the then "Christians" with
respect to those who wanted to preserve Hellenism and the Ancient Greek
"Christians" went so far as to torture people in unimaginable ways, sometimes in worse
ways than those of the inquisition, giving them the option to "convert or die". All
this, in addition to the massive destruction of buildings, monuments and Greek temples,
labelled as "pagan" and thus dangerous at the time of Justinian, for example. The more famous remnant of these actions
is the actual banning of the Olympic Games, for hundreds of years, until they
were resurrected in modern Greece, in 1896, after the Greek War of Independence from
the Ottoman Empire.
In addition to the extensive and methodical forceful coercion, several (modern and
not) dissertations also attempted to reconcile many elements of the Ancient
Greek philosophy and Spirit with the new Christian dogma and indeed some have done so,
Although some of the more famous Ancient Greek philosophers and scientists such as
Anaxagoras, Plato, Socrates, Aristotle etc. were not really atheists in the modern
sense of the word, this tenuous connection was
implicitly raised and manipulated to make it look like the Ancient Greek Spirit was
a major precursor of Christian Theism, as much as ridiculous this is.
The important point here is that an explicit manipulation was performed by
some of the church fathers, who tried to "justify" the Christian dogma on the basis
that The Ancients were "sort of" pre-confirming it, with their
The above is of course a major travesty. The Greeks were never obsessed with
the metaphysical side of The Universe, precisely because they had science of the
highest level at their disposal, which explained just about everything. Science which
allowed for example Archimedes to do such things as elementary integration of
non-elementary curves or to calculate the volume of
the Earth and the distance between Earth and Sun and science which allowed Aristarchus of Samos to present a heliocentric
predict solar eclipses.
The point of all this is not to present a grand parade of Ancient Greek scientists
and philosophers who knew pretty much science to the highest standards that their age
and times allowed, rather, to make a very simple point: Similarly to how today, when
our science has reached comparable levels of expertise, we don't consider ridiculous
religious positions as intellectually-developed/advanced, we cannot
consider this grand nonsense, called the Bible and Christian dogma to have affected
in the least, minds, people and nations who had performed such incredible feats
of science, like The Ancient Greeks. Plainly put: Advanced scientific societies do not
need religious dogmas, except, possibly, for entertainment purposes.
Therefore, an impasse is reached: Since today we, as descendants of the Ancient
Greeks, call ourselves "Christians" (officially or otherwise), either we are not the
descendants of the Ancient Greeks or a major joke has (and is) being played on
our backyard. It may not be an exclusive, either/or, mind you. I believe that a mixture
of both has taken place: There is a continuous lineage of certain genes between modern
Greeks and their ancestors which can be verified using biology for a large part of the
Balkans, so the
joke theory appears to weigh a little more: A certain "dumbing down" of sorts has
occurred with modern Greece, which was the result not only
of the natural deterioration or assimilation, but also the result of an explicit
attempt by the Jewish memeplexes who initiated and propagated this totally dangerous
plague, called Christianity. Most notably, the work of Saul of Tarsus.
I am not an atheist, but the Christian doctrine along with the other two "Abrahamic"
religions, Islam and Judaism, is the most nauseating, disgusting, abominable and
virulent meme creation I have seen, ever in my life and in all of history. It's
so disgusting in fact, that even the memeplexes who created it and initiated it
and later caused its methodical spread, have been rejected even by the Jews themselves.
The Christian doctrine is like a persistent, recurrent and
virulent plague or disease of weaker minds, hence it can be used as the
ultimate weapon by power-hungry people. And that's exactly
what it was used for, throughout history. It destroyed and subjugated The Ancient Greek
the Scientific Method and the advances of the Ancient Greeks with the abominable
illogic of the faithfully sub-ordinate, the common average idiot, the weak, the cripple
and slavish and threw scientific thought backwards for at least for 1,000 years.
The colossal stupidity of this virulent doctrine is becoming even more evident and
persistent today as a function of time, since no single person has ever
escaped Death since its inception, despite the
supposed Jesus' words to the contrary. Yet, people continue to hope for "eternal life"
and continue believing its nonsense, despite having not one iota of evidence for its
existence. The believers of this doctrine, believe in a fraudulent lie,
voluntarily. Tells you something about the "intelligence" of the doctrine's
As a Greek (whether a true or a bogus descendant of the Ancients), I
feel insulted, disgusted, nauseated and severely damaged from being raised up in a
country which calls itself Greece, yet officially adheres and
teaches its people this doctrine of fraud, lies and mythical fairy tales called
"Christianity", which originated in a
foreign nation with a barbaric history and theology of lies, mysticism, magic,
fraud, masochism, misogyny and misanthropy, which worships the bloodthirsty tyrant
desert volcano god called YHVH-Jehovah, who supposedly decides to sacrifice his own
who taught that his followers can be saved through some sort of
semi-cannibalistic/vampiristic blood ritual of drinking his blood and eating his
omitting the ritualistic aspect of it, the simple atonement theology of Christianity
is totally absurd, ridiculous and contradictory.
The Christian doctrine has transformed most of the population of modern Greece into
a nation of subservient, god-fearing, illiterate idiots and morons Matthew 5:3 (whose original Greek literally translates as
"blessed are the mentally challenged/idiots), who now confuse "tradition" with this
judeo-christian pseudo-philosophical excrement and actually feel proud(!) being part
of it, considering parts of it their own tradition!
"Christian Greek" is an oxymoron to true
Greeks, as is
Greek of any absurd religion imposed on free-thinking logical
and scientific minds.
- Emphasis on "supposedly", because it's hard to ascertain, at least using modern
historical standards, what's fable and what's fact in the Bible. Some such 'facts'
already sound dubious: The Uknknown god inscription: Had the Ancient Greeks had such an
altar to begin with, with such an instription, they would have spelled it as:
θεοίς', rather than: '(Τω)
Αγνώστω θεώ' like Paul
claims in the Koine version of Acts. Greeks were aware that other cultures had
many and different gods, so it's unlikely for them to have favored just one. So
Paul likely changed the phrase to singular and omitted the rest of the epigraph
which mentioned gods of Europe, Africa, etc., like on altars in Athens and in
other cities dedicated to unknown gods: "Τοις
Ξένοις (Pausanias, "Attica A', 1,4)." - "Diis Asiae
et Europae et Africae, diis ignotis et peregrinis" (Holzner). In any case, after
the alleged talk at Aeropagus, the Athenians after hearing about 'ressurection of
the dead', dragged and kicked Paul out of Athens without further ado.
- After its fall to the Romans in 147 BC.
- Nobody knows the exact dynamics of the spreading of the dogma on the Greek
peninsula itself, but it's pretty safe to assume that the remaining Greeks eventually
were assimilated by it because of some obvious strongholds, such as the Greek
language and culture which were dominant throughout the Empire.
- See for example the surprisingly accurate movie Agora by director Alexandro Amenabar.
- Famous church Fathers, for example, like John the Chrysostom, used such harsh language (Greek) against the Greeks and their works in
favor of the new church, modern historians would cringe and be baffled and
disgusted. Such personae are considered today in Greece as major "saints" and
contributors to modern Greece's "culture", whereas in reality they were the worst
kind of traitors Hellenism has ever known or seen. Their
accusative and negative writings (Greek) have been suppressed
by the modern churches, so the average Greek is mostly unaware of them. John
Chrysostom writes: "If you look at the internals (of the Greek thought) you will
see, ash and dust and nothing healthy, but an open grave is the larynx (of the
Greek Philosophers), everything is therefore full of excrement and puss, and all
their dogmas are full of worms... Such is what Greeks gave birth to and
proliferated, taking from their Philosophers... We, however, do not resign from
our battle against them...". (Memorandum to saint John the Apostle, Speech Ξ',
- For example to the point where The Ancient Greek Platonic Logos() of the Greeks found its "proper"
niche and incarnated (became flesh) as the image of the invisible God. In that
sense, some aspects of the Ancient Greek philosophy have been made to even
prophesy the coming of Christ(!). All this, in
addition to the forceful coercion which took place anyway, as if it wasn't
enough, so an alternate method had to be found which would somehow justify the Christian mindset.
- Socrates, for example, would mock both theists and atheists alike, if their
arguments were ridiculous. On the other hand, the church used (and continues to use)
some of Aristotle's arguments.
- Tens of hundreds of years before Newton and Leibnitz formalized calculus.
- Hundreds of years before his idea was re-presented and re-introduced as a new
theory by Copernicus, who was given credit for it.
- The interested reader is welcome to find out more, for example, here.
- Not only in modern Greece, but everywhere.
- The biggest hubris of them all, being Greece having a flag with a cross on it.
That's like making a public statement to foreigners that whoever lives here certainly
ain't Greek, by far (although some have argued that a square cross is not necessarily
a Christian symbol).
- Via an assorted community of Christian monks, priests, deacons and episcopes, who
continuously pester the public sector's monetary resources and politics and
continuously "dumb-down" the public, again via an assorted array of fake, hating,
anti-Hellenic and disgusting philosophies, anniversaries, dates, saints and memorials
which have evolved from the Nazarene sect. Todate, not one modern Greek politician
has ever step forth to address the problem of the Nazarene
sect and church in Greece, reinforcing the idea that modern Greece is basically
governed by traitors.
- What's also particularly funny is that major academic institutions traditionally
offer (and have been offering) degrees in "theology". That's a bit like offering
degrees in jewelry, baking or UFOlogy. How can one fail for example, doing a
Ph.D. in Biblical studies? I have no idea. Having written some Christian
"dissertations" (or articles which rely on Christian doctrine) in the Writing section, ultimately proves that similar can be written
easily by your average idiot without too much effort.
- Matthew 5:44: "But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute
you" (In a selectively chosen context, since elsewhere we read: Luke 19:27: "But
those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them - bring them here and
kill them in front of me."). That's like a double bonus: Your enemy (i.e. the
memeplexes who created this atrocious dogma) harms you and
gets away with it. Why not push it a bit further? Why not give your enemy
gifts while he is at it, harming you? In a world where survival is of the
utmost importance, "forgiving" your enemy is like admitting defeat beforehand
and agreeing to withdraw from the game of life. The stupidity of the people who
accept this tremendous absurdity as a philosophy of life, then, must
necessarily be colossal, for they eliminate themselves voluntarily from
the game of life pool, making it easier for their enemy to prosper and proliferate at
their expense. Of course, if the latter doesn't apply to you, then
the doctrine can apply Luke 19:27 for a change: like it has done in most cases of
medieval persecution for dissidents, atheists, witches, magicians, loons and
generally dissagreeable folk or for warring excuses. Some terrific
interpretational flexibility this doctrine, has.
- Probably bogus, since the name my parents game me is of Jewish origin
- "I am Greek, as such I cannot be a Christian" - Apollonius. "I am Christian, as
such I cannot be Greek" - Genadios Scholarios.
- For a brief summary, consult Hellenic Cultural Genocide I, Hellenic Cultural Genocide II and HOW CHRISTIANITY WAS IMPOSED IN GREECE (in Greek. You can
translate it with Google).
- Old Testament: Against Greeks. New Testament: Jesus' opinion about Greeks:
akin to 'dogs'. Orthodox Sunday Liturgy (Greek): Curses & Damnations against the Greeks.
Psalms 21:9-10 and 2 Samuel 22:8-9. If existent, definitely an insanely flawed
- or plainly insane consciousness or at least insane at the time "it" concluded
its formal nature, perceiving itself as something which it was not, devising a
ludicrous plan of salvation aiming at possible behavioral error-correction. The
simplistic absurdity of the whole subsequent plan however- for people to be
saved through sacrificing one of its own facets to be symbolically
“consumed” by its followers (knowing that it wouldn’t die, as
already immortal and eternal i.e.), only reveals that it is either of very low
intelligent capacity or simply totally bonkers, betting its horses on the
traditional sacrificial gullibility of its followers (thinking perhaps that
this facet did indeed die and offered benefit of some sort to the believer?).
That's akin to a physicist gaining information advantages about the physical
state of the Sun by “consuming” (swallowing?) a piece of paper with
a differential equation that describes the Sun’s plasma state in Physics,
to appease future believers of prior faulty/inconsistent behavior by perceiving
“him” as a “God of love” (because of genius and loving
foresight in delivering us from hell through such an absurd plan, no less(!)).
Hence Jesus’ wrath against the “your true father, the devil”.
The latter is virtually synonymous to Jesus stamping out YHVH as an insane,
evil and absolutely terrrifying consciousness,
something which would necessarily be true, if “he” existed. Thank
goodness I don’t think this being exists, or we’d all be in big
trouble, already. In the unfortunate case he does, I’d like to think
he’s probably already locked-up away somewhere very very far away from
this planet banging his head against the void in Erebus.
- To be fair, Jesus never addressed the aforementioned being by name AS his father.
There are no named references to YHVH in the NT, except El-ohim and that’s "my
God", not "my Father"="Abba". If we presume the physical existence of Jesus, then we
have to assume that his father existed too, since he constantly addresses him. But
the question of who really was his father, remains unresolved, unless one
accepts that he went nuts at some point after adolescence and thought that his father
was somebody different from Joseph. Looks suspiciously like the whole connection
between this being and Jesus (read: the inclusion of the entire OT (Torah -Tanakh)
into consideration along with the NT to form the Christian dogma) was a conveniently
tailored bandwaggon hijack attempt to authorize Jesus into divine position using the
already existing power of YHVH (More details on the frivolous nature of the Bible's
tailoring(s) throughout the ages and for a fairly good collection of contradictory
elements found therein, consult this Quora profile). Jesus saves:
- That's very close to abstract Cannibalism. The idea is simply ridiculous: It's similar to
the idea that a Mathematician for example can acquire insightful knowledge about
whether the number Mn=2n-1 is prime or not, by 'swallowing'
(how?) the symbol 'Mn'(!). One would be tempted to think that the
'true' followers of Jesus are the mosquitoes(!) (which, indeed, drink the blood of
their hosts/'masters' in order to survive).
- More on this Quora answer.
- "Bible Gateway" (online).
- Wikipedia's "Constantine The Great" (online).
- Wikipedia's "Constantine and Christianity" (online).
- Wikipedia's "Logos" (online).